David Deangelo On Internet Dating

When I first started learning how to meet women and get dates, the internet was an AMAZING tool for me.

One of the great things about meeting women online is that you can literally do it ANYTIME... from anywhere...

It's also a great place to practice first conversations, Cocky & Funny humor, and escalating from "conversations" to DATES.

If you're interesting in learning more about how to meet women online, then you should take a couple of minutes and check THIS out. Make sure you watch the video clips, by the way...

http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/mwo

Let me know what you think.

Talk soon,

David D.

Double Your Dating by David Deangelo, What's Your Opinion?

Like most of you, I started with David Deangelo's Double Your Dating ebook. I think I subscribed to his newsletter after searching the topic, "How To Be More Attractive to Women". I downloaded the ebook and was reading for hours. I couldn't believe the plentora of information that this man had accumulated, and that I was now accumulating on this hard topic.

For months, I had been searching for answers to my dating problems. For a while, I over used "cocky and funny", probably for a year. This brought me many more issues. After establishing the context of it, and having researched and experienced loads more methods of attraction building, I realize more and more that the principles taught in David DeAngelo Double Your Dating, were applicable to the modern man. I just hadn't realized it yet.

I'd like to hear your story. I know many of you have had experiences with Double Your Dating. How has Double Your Dating helped you? What would you recommend to others just starting to read Double Your Dating? Any other comments?

What's your experience with David Deangelo, good or bad?

Top 5 Dating Coaches of 2006

It's been a very controversial voting but I have calculated your votes (there was 1100+), I have researched the Top 5 most popular, and here are the...



The Results

1. Juggler
2. Neil Strauss
3. David Deangelo
4. Stephen Nash
5. Mystery



Juggler's natural game, and Seduction School pilot helped him seal the deal this year.

Juggler (Wayne Elise)



Wayne Elise is an old-timer within the seduction community. He was the first to start teaching infield workshops back in 1999(?). His game is most based on natural, comfort building conversations. His Seduction School pilot in the UK topped ratings, and helped his business explode.

Learn more about Wayne Elise with his brief profile on my site here.

2. Neil Strauss



Neil Strauss helped the community reach popularity in October of 2005 with the book "The Game". His techniques mirror Mystery's and he was a leader in the community for several years. In mid-2006, he released the Annihilation Method, a DVD collection of his own teachings.

Read my interview with Neil Strauss here.

3. David Deangelo



David Deangelo is one of the longest running "community" dating coaches around. His techniques have earned him the praise of thousands, and his masculine identity products help guys overcome their "wussyness".

Learn more about David Deangelo with a brief profile on my site here.

4. Stephen Nash (PlayboyLA)

Stephen Nash was a resident of Project Hollywood, and former RSD instructor. He left the "game" several years ago - accomplishing all that the community could offer him. After leaving the game, he formed Cutting Edge Image Consulting. Stephen takes the best parts of "pickup" and teaches men how to develop a strong identity, charismatic social skills, and most importantly an attractive and fulfilling lifestyle, which he ultimately believes leads to much higher success than "pickup" could ever offer. (On a side-note, I took one-on-one coaching from Stephen, and it was a life changing session)

Read my interview with Stephen Nash on my blog here, or visit his new website here.

5. Mystery



Mystery is probably one of the world's leading pickup artists. This year was fairly uneventful for him as a dating coach, however the Mystery Method has been more widely adopted than ever before. His terms are now standard. With his separation from the Mystery Method company, this year will probably see Eric more in the community spotlight with new innovations.

Read more about the Mystery Method here.

That's it for this year! It promises to be excellent!
Donovan

How To Use Flirting To Make Her Want You

I want to talk about the concept of "flirting", and why it's SO important that you understand exactly what it is and how to do it with women.

To begin with, women know what flirting is and they respond VERY differently to flirting communication than they do to typical social communication.

If you understand flirting and sexual tension, you can begin conversations with women and have them INSTANTLY feeling ATTRACTION for you.

If you DON'T understand how flirting and sexual tension work, then you're either going to have to become famous or make a LOT of money to be successful with women.

I'm going to suggest that you learn how to flirt well, then do it RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING in your interactions with women to SET THE RIGHT TONE.

Think of flirting like playing.

Remember when you were a kid and you used to "play fight" with your friends?

What's the difference between "play" wrestling and "real" wrestling?

And how do you know the difference when it's happening... when your friend runs up and pushes you down, then jumps on you and tries to pin you?

The answer is YOU JUST KNOW. It's obvious to humans (and other animals, by the way) when someone is "playing" and when they're serious.

Flirting is similar.

If you start talking to a woman and say, "Hi, you're very pretty. You probably have a boyfriend, right?" in a normal tone of voice, you're NOT flirting.

On the other hand, if you say, "Hi, I realize that you're probably shy because you get no attention from men... so I thought I'd come over here and pay attention to you..." it's OBVIOUS that you're not being serious. This is flirting.

By the way, flirting IS NOT simply telling jokes, or trying to be "cute".

One of the concepts that I teach is called "Cocky & Funny."

Cocky & Funny is simply a powerful, concentrated way of flirting and creating sexual tension with a specific kind of humor.

It's so funny to me how some guys write in because they "can't see themselves being Cocky & Funny around women" because they don't want to come across as jerks.

This really cracks me up... because it's obvious to me that these guys JUST DON'T GET IT.

So let me explain this whole thing a different way...

If you know how to communicate the right way, women will respond to you RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING with a HIGH LEVEL of sexual interest and ATTRACTION.

When you know how to incorporate flirting in a Cocky & Funny way, which is really a form of "adult verbal play", you tune in to a certain frequency in a woman's mind and cause her to go into a very special kind of emotional state.

One of the keys to effective flirting is to "get it". In other words, you have to actually get out there and practice so you get a "feel" for how it works.

I think a lot of guys give up when they try a cute line or technique and a woman responds by saying "You're a loser." Instead of just realizing that they need more practice or that the woman might have just been in a bad mood or even one of those horrible "I don't have a sense of humor" cases, they take it personally and decide to just have it mean that they're a failure.

But take my word for it... once you learn how to flirt effectively and communicate in the language of "adult play" you WILL SIMPLY NOT BELIEVE how women will respond to you. If you want to see some video clips of me TEACHING Cocky & Funny then go here and check out the examples:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/10000/CockyComedy/

Here's an example of some of one of my favorite topics to "riff on" when flirting... the topic of getting married and us being in a relationship... and I'll give it to you in the form of a sample dialog. Keep in mind, I might have a
conversation like this one with a woman that I just met five minutes earlier...

Her: "I have a good job, and I make good money"

Me: "Nice. I like that in a woman. Want to get married? We could leave for Vegas right now and be married in about 4 or 5 hours. I need a woman with money."

Her: "OK, that sounds like a plan"

Me: "But wait a minute... do you think you can support the both of us on your income? I really want to be a stay at home husband... you know, keep an eye on the TV and such."

Her: "Oh, no... I won't support you."

Me: "Well, then I'm breaking up with you. It's over between us. I was going to marry you, then divorce you a week later and take half your money."

Her: "You can't break up with me! I'm not even your girlfriend."

Me: "That's all the more reason."

...do you get what's going on here?

I'm taking a normal conversation topic (her job and income) and redirecting the conversation in a flirtatious, Cocky & Funny way to create a fun mood and sexual tension (by suggesting marriage, divorce, and breaking up over her not supporting
me, etc.).

If the above example doesn't make any sense to you, then take that as a sign that you need to get out and practice more. Try it on a waitress or two.

When you ask for something and she says, "I'm sorry, we don't have that", just say, "OK, this relationship isn't working out... I'm going to have to break up with you."

In fact, you can say this in just about ANY situation with ANY woman where she's saying something that you don't like, and it's funny.

When you communicate like this, you're FLIRTING, you're TEASING, and you're initiating a DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMUNICATION than what most men initiate.

And as soon as the woman you're talking to "engages" you in this kind of dialogue, THE GAME IS ON.

There are a LOT of ways you can flirt, and a lot of ways you can be Cocky & Funny that DON'T REQUIRE WORDS.

If a woman looks at you and raises one eyebrow, look back at her and do the same... only exaggerate it.

If a woman puts her hand on your arm, look down at it, then look up at her in a surprised way, then raise your eyebrows as if you just had a major "ah ha!" realization... then start smiling and nodding your head as if you just realized that
she wants you. This is a powerful combination because it's funny, and it exaggerates the meaning in her touching you.

There are a MILLION ways to flirt like this, but the point that I'm trying to make is that you NEED TO START DOING IT RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR INTERACTIONS WITH WOMEN.

It will set off all of your conversations with women on the right foot, and start a dialog that creates sexual tension and ATTRACTION.

If you DON'T learn how to communicate with women like this you'll have BORING, "NORMAL" conversations that NEVER lead to sexual tension and ATTRACTION.

Remember, women can tell INSTANTLY whether you're flirting with them or not. If you are, and you're doing it in a subtle, charming way, you'll get amazing responses.

One of the keys to flirting and creating ATTRACTION effectively, is projecting confidence and indifference both in your voice tone and body language as you do it...

And in order to project these things, you need to have the right understanding and BELIEFS about how male/female ATTRACTION works... and then be able to project them throughout your conversation with women.

The program you need to get if you want to learn how to FLIRT with women is my famous "Cocky Comedy" DVD/CD program.

One of the SPECIFIC things that I saw guys who were "naturals" with women doing... and one of the things that I later learned to do... is what I call "being Cocky & Funny".

You've probably read about the technique in these newsletters I send you.

This is essentially my FAVORITE "technique", and the reason why is because it's FUN... and it WORKS.

It's fun for you, it's fun for her, and it works like MAD to spark and build ATTRACTION.

If you've tried being Cocky & Funny with a woman and seen that SPARK in her eye... and the smile on her face... then you KNOW how powerful this is.

Well, this program will take your basic skills and SUPERCHARGE them. I'll teach you everything from the foundations of humor and laughter... all the way to specific word-by-word lines for the most common situations you find yourself in with women.

Go check it out, and watch some video clips here:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/10000/CockyComedy/

Oh, and if you haven't gone and downloaded my online eBook "Double Your Dating", then you need to get your ass in gear and do that right now. You can download it and be reading it in just a few minutes from right now. Get it here:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/10000/eBook/

I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend

David D

eHarmony Review

Well, Thundercat posted an article on his blog about eHarmony. From what he was saying, it sounds like the worst site on the Internet. Not only is it a waste of time (literally - time consuming to setup an account), but it also seems like there's nothing but freak show, desperate women on there. AFC's we need you, go over to this site, eHarmony and do some charity work.

In the end, Thundercat ended up saying:

"Over all, I’d say that eHarmony is one of the WORST dating sites for guys out there. Personally, I think that company is kept afloat by a gaggle of desperate, ugly women who struck out on all the other dating sites out there. If you’re looking to get some quality results with online dating, go for a site that gives you more freedom and better search quality, like Match or Yahoo. And if you don’t want to pay for it, stick to MySpace."

If you want the edge with online dating, like a total system with secret techniques and results based on experience from experts, check out David Deangelo's "Meeting Women Online" DVD set. Really awesome stuff.

Donovan

David Deangelo's Cocky Comedy Program (Video)

It's been too long for me to post these videos from Cocky Comedy.

I've noticed alot of men within the community, tend to overdo Cocky and Funny. That's why David released this, to help get the right formula.

Basically, cocky and funny is flirting. If you're insulting a woman. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. You need to fix it. Get this DVD set, it's great for flirting and generating crazy amounts of attraction.


David Deangelo Cocky Comedy Program


David Deangelo Cocky Comedy Testimonals
(Guys who were at seminar)

Can You Program Yourself To Meet Women?

I'd like to talk a bit about how we program ourselves and become programmed when it comes to dealing with women... as well as how to overcome the negative programming that we often don't even recognize within ourselves.

Let me ask you a few questions. Take a moment to think about the answers... maybe even write them down.

1) When it comes to women, do you have an overall "positive" outlook towards your success? Do you believe that there is "abundance" when it comes to women, and that you can go out at any time and get a date if you want to? Why or why not?

2) Do you have any negative beliefs or programming when it comes to the idea of APPROACHING women you'd like to meet or asking women out on dates? Do you believe that you're going to be intruding or annoying a woman if you approach her? Do you
believe that a woman will most likely accept or reject a date request from you?

3) Have you CHOSEN the beliefs and attitudes that you have towards women, or have they been "chosen for you" by others, situations, programming, TV, the media, etc.?

4) Would you like to change some of the attitudes and beliefs that you hold in your mind? If so, which ones and what would you like to change them to?

If you're like most guys I know who would like to improve their success with women, then you probably have one or two "negative programs" in your subconscious mind (if you're like I used to be before I learned the things I know now, then you might have A LOT of them).

I can remember when I used to believe that women would be VERY offended or alarmed if I tried to strike up an unexpected conversation with them...

I can remember feeling that if a woman rejected me in front of other people that I WOULD DIE of embarrassment.

I can remember thinking, "Why would a woman find ME attractive?" And believing that the truly desirable, beautiful women out there just wouldn't find a guy like me interesting or attractive because I wasn't rich, tall, famous, buff, or of royal descent.

And as a matter of fact, even though I've spent literally YEARS reprogramming myself and learning as much as I could about women and attraction, I still know that somewhere deep in my subconscious mind this old programming exists. Of course, it
doesn't affect my behavior the way it used to, but my point is that once you program yourself or open yourself to programming from others and from our modern culture, it's sometimes a challenge to overcome that programming and go on to be successful.

Let me give you a little Tough Love:

NO ONE CARES WHETHER OR NOT YOU FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT WITH WOMEN. AND NO ONE CARES WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH WOMEN... OTHER THAN YOU.

Really.

If you learn how to meet and date the kinds of women that you've always wanted, it won't matter to anyone. Your friends won't think you're any cooler (well, maybe a little), your mom won't stop nagging you, your boss won't pay you more money, and you won't lose that extra 10 pounds that you've needed to lose for the past 10 years.

It just doesn't matter. No one cares.

THE ONLY PERSON THAT CARES IS YOU.

And the only one that's going to be able to do anything about this programming that we're talking about IS YOU.

Your buddies aren't going to come over tomorrow night and say, "Hey, you know, I've been thinking about it. You really need to do something about your subconscious programming in the area of women and dating, and I'd like to help you."

Your mom isn't going to call you up and say, "You know, dear, I've been thinking about it, and I really put some bad ideas in your mind about how to treat women... I'd like to address those things in this call and help you become the mac daddy you've always wanted to be."

Nope.

You're not going to get a call from the guys that run the ads that say, "Show her that you love her by spending five grand on a pair of diamond earrings" to tell you that the ads really aren't true and that no amount of diamonds will help you meet women if you're programmed to act like a WUSSY.

It just ain't gonna happen that way.

If you want to do something about your programming and your success, you're going to have to DO IT ALL YOURSELF.

Here, let me say that again... just in case you didn't get it...

YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALL YOURSELF.

And what's the best way to do it yourself?

This is a fantastic question...

There are a lot of ways to get it going, but I have a few favorites... and since we only have a little time together in this newsletter, I'll get right to the point...

1) Look around and pay careful attention to what's REALLY going on. Just like a comedian looks at the fine details and tells stories about things that we never see... but are right there in front of us, you need to look closer.

Here's a little story.

I was in Vegas awhile back for a visit. I hadn't been to Vegas in about 4 years, so everything seemed new to me... there were about 5 huge new hotels that had just opened, and I spent the day walking around and just seeing the sights.

As I walked around, I looked at the people... and especially at the couples. I'm not sure if it was because I was looking at all of the new sights or what, but for some reason I was really noticing a lot of little details... and I was paying
special attention to the couples that were strolling around on the strip.

It's always amazing to me how attractive women will be with guys of all shapes, sizes, and ages...

When you really look around and pay attention to what's actually going on, you'll be amazed.

And you don't have to be in Vegas to see this phenomenon yourself. Just go out on a Friday night and look around.

Now, before you say, "Yeah, but if you're rich or handsome or tall you'll get more chicks", I will acknowledge that these things can provide certain advantages, but they're not NEAR the level of advantage that WOMEN get from being physically attractive... not even close, actually.

The more I pay attention, learn and try things, the more I realize that women respond to PERSONALITY far more than they respond to LOOKS.

I've even made it a point to ask guys who are tall, handsome, etc., if they believe that their success with women comes from those things. Almost universally they tell me that their ATTITUDES and SKILLS are far more important than their looks.

I've also met a lot of tall, good-looking guys at my seminars who have INCREDIBLE problems meeting women. The more experience I have with this, the more I realize just how little LOOKS has to do with the equation.

You've probably read some of these newsletters where good looking guys write in and say, "I'm buff, good looking, and I have women talking to me all the time, but I can't get any dates... they only like me as a friend."

So, part of this step is for you to take a day or so and go out in public... to a place that is PACKED with people, and look around at the couples. Look with your own two eyes and see all of the attractive women that are with guys who are NOT what you would consider to be "physically attractive."

You need to see with your own eyes what's going on in the REAL world.

This is a big step in changing some of your programming.

2) Watch some guys who are successful with women.

One of the best things I've ever done is make friends with some REALLY SUCCESSFUL guys (I'm talking about success with women here). As a matter of fact, most of the techniques that I've learned, developed, and write about originally started out as something I got from friends by watching them interact with women.

When you watch guys who know how to make women feel that magical emotion called "ATTRACTION", you'll start to see the patterns in their behavior, and the patterns in the responses from women.

Nothing can replace watching a guy walk up to a woman, start talking to her, and walk away 5 minutes later with her number.

So make some new friends if you have to. Just do what it takes to watch some guys interact with women. It's a big one.

If you're at a point in your life where you're too busy with work, etc. to get out and meet guys who are successful with women, then do yourself a favor and get my eBook, Double Your Dating... that will help a LOT. It's here.

3) Stop looking for a "magic pill". Realize that you're going to have to CONSTANTLY learn and improve.

I know, I know. You'd like to take a pill and have this whole part of your life handled.

You'd like a computer chip implanted in your brain that will change you into a chick-magnet.

Well, until these things exist, you're going to have to do it the old fashioned way... you're going to have to actually DO SOMETHING.

At first, it might seem a little uncomfortable. You might feel weird going out to a bar alone just to look at the people.

But don't worry, no one will care (remember what I said earlier... nobody cares whether or not you're successful, only you do).

The more you improve, the more you'll WANT to improve, and the easier it will become.

Read books, try things, experiment. Keep a journal, write down what works and what doesn't, think about the things you'd like to change and write them down.

JUST KEEP IMPROVING A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.

If you do these things, you'll begin to REPROGRAM YOURSELF and change your negative programming into POSITIVE programming and success.

Of course, the best place to start is with some of the materials that I've put together...

It took me years of trial and error to really figure out what works with women.

Repeat: It took me YEARS.

Years of trial and error.

I'm talking about trying out everything you can imagine...and having MOST of it NOT work.

Every time I found something that DID work, I took the idea, refined it, and wrote it down... then worked on it some more.

As you already know, I've taken all the stuff I've learned for myself and put it into the programs that I've created to help YOU learn this stuff much quicker and easier than I ever did.

One of the things I discovered while I was learning how to attract women, was that most men walk around with a DEEP INSECURITY inside.

It took me a few years to figure out something even MORE important:

That insecurity can't be fixed with "pick up lines".

And the reality is that it's MORE than just an insecurity issue...

It's actually that most men have never gone through the process of BECOMING a man who NATURALLY attracts women.

Oh, one more thing... if you haven't downloaded a copy of my online eBook "Double Your Dating", then what the hell are you waiting for? You can download it RIGHT NOW and be reading it within a few minutes. Go download it here:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/10000/eBook/

And by the way, make sure and forward this email to a friend and encourage them to sign up for my free newsletter. They'll appreciate it, and I'll appreciate it.

I'll talk to you again in a couple of days.

Your Friend,

David Deangelo

3 Secrets of Meeting Women Online

If you've "tried" online dating, and not gotten the results that you wanted... or you'd like to learn how to write online personal ads that get MASSIVE RESPONSE, then go read this:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingProgram.com/e/10000/MeetingWomenOnline/


***SUCCESS STORY***

Well I have to say I was a little skeptical about your book at first. I've never been very successful with women. I've always been the shy, quiet type that treat women like a prize and act like a wussy. Well after a few newsletters I decided to give it a shot. Well it all made sense to me so I got your CD series and it's even better then the book. So I decided to try the C&F method.

I've been on some dating sites for a few years and occasionally I would get a response. A little over a week ago I changed my profile so I wasn't such a wussy and pleading with women with how good of a catch I'd be (as most women say they want a nice guy) In less then a week, I've gotten 5 responses. It's amazing. I'm only about half way through with the CD's too can't wait to see what else they hold.

JN from NY

>>>>>>MY COMMENTS:

Oh, Ye of little faith...

Remember something.

Women are always INTERPRETING everything you say.

In other words, they want to know what things MEAN.

When you say, "I'm a great guy" in your profile, a woman reading it says to herself, "yeah, right... If you were a great guy, then you wouldn't need to SAY it. You're probably a loser who WISHES that he were a great guy."

On the other hand, if you write a Cocky & Funny profile that talks about how picky you are and that you're trying this online dating thing as a last resort because all the attractive women you meet bore you... then a woman will think to herself, "Ah ha! A challenge! I'll bet you that I can get his attention...".

Great job, and keep me posted on your future success stories.

David

Getting Back Into "The Game" With Women

***QUESTION***

Hi,

I've read your newsletter for a few months now and just recently got your book which is fantastic. First off a little background here. I was married for 11 years (I'm 33) and basically was either dating or married to same person for 13 years. I have been divorced now for a few months, and was actually separated for over a year before I got divorced. Having been out of the dating scene for so long I was pretty much clueless (a lot has changed). I've always been a very funny guy and cocky to an extent, but in many ways what you would consider a "wuss". I've always considered myself a nice guy, considerate, caring, etc. You know, how mother taught you to be. I've realized that those qualities are great of course, but don't help a lot in the dating scene. Once I started more of the cocky routine, it's been amazing. Like I said, I've always been funny so I guess I have a head start already.

Anyway, I've had some really "hot" dates in the past couple months with the help of your book, but one of the biggest problems I have in getting dates is the fact I have been divorced and have 4 kids. I don't consider this a problem whatsoever, they're a huge part of my life, but I know the way women think sometimes and view this as "baggage". Is there any advice you could give me on how I can incorporate some of your philosophies and techniques into over coming this persona of "baggage" and help me attract more women?

On a side note. This is a strange success story here (if you can consider it that haha). Like I said before I was married, and she is a really beautiful woman. Just for the hell of it I decided to start using the c&f routine on her every chance I could (we still get along pretty good as "friends", btw). I thought it would be good "practice". Anyway, last weekend I was over dropping off my kids, and she says "JC". I said, "what?". I walk over to her bedroom (where she was at) and she says out of the blue "get on the bed now!" She was kidding and it threw me for a loop, but I just said "in your dreams!" Shocked she said, "WHAT?" I replied with, "maybe in our next lifetime". I then proceeded to end the conversation and leave quickly after that (had a date haha). Two nights ago she calls me at home, and basically asked me out. I said what the hell! So, we went out last night (kids were at her sisters), and let's just say that after 3 years of not having sex with her, I forgot what I was missing!! So there's one for you, "how to get your ex wife in bed with you again!!" LMAO In case you're wondering, no way no how, will I ever go back to that relationship (but sex on the other hand...hell yes!). There's a different kind of "success" story for you!

J.C.

>>>>>>MY COMMENTS:

In your email you point out something very, very, VERY interesting. You say:

"I've always considered myself a nice guy, considerate, caring, etc. You know, how mother taught you to be. I've realized that those qualities are great of course, but don't help a lot in the dating scene."

Well said.

It is SO important that guys understand the distinction between "dating scene" and "long-term relationship scene" when it comes to women and interacting with them.

Many of the things that make a long-term relationship great will KILL your chances
INSTANTLY with a woman that you don't know. I'll talk about this more in a moment.

I think that as guys, most of us want to do the right thing, treat others well, and live with integrity.

There are of course exceptions to this rule, but I think that most of us know at a very deep level that treating others well, being honest, having integrity, and living an authentic life leads to happiness... while being dishonest, treating others poorly, putting our integrity aside for selfish reasons, etc. leads to that constant, negative, dragging state of body and mind.

The problem arises when we go out into the world to find a mate. It matters not whether we're looking for a wife or a one-night stand...

As soon as we see a really attractive woman, most of us guys become nervous, self conscious, and insecure. We feel excitement and fear at the same time. The first impulse is to approach and give compliments in a way that says "You are a beautiful goddess, and I am a mere mortal man... Please, if you would, see your way clear to give me a chance to show you how much I adore you."

If the goddess indulges us for a moment, the next impulse is usually to provide gifts and food, and to show her what a great provider we are.

Of course, not every man experiences things in exactly the same way, but you can probably empathize with what I'm saying.

Here's the deal:

I USED TO BE EXACTLY LIKE THIS. I know EXACTLY what it's like to want a woman's attention but not know how to get it... so I'd give compliments, offer gifts and food, and try every other "nice" trick in the book.

I did this for a long time. Many years, in fact.

I used this strategy long enough to realize a few key things:

1) Approaching women this way doesn't usually work. They immediately sense your insecurity, and mentally classify you as "average" and "like the other 10 guys that approached her today", etc.

2) ATTRACTION is a completely illogical process. ATTRACTION also isn't a choice. ATTRACTION is a response to certain things... and it happens on it's own.

3) Being a good guy is an important part of life. Treating others well and always doing the right thing leads to things like: A) Liking yourself, B)Happiness, C) Good friendships, etc.

4) Being a "nice guy" when it comes to women and dating, especially when it is used enough to make you qualify as a WUSSY, is a REALLY REALLY BAD idea.

5) There are certain techniques that can be learned which will help you get past the initial meeting and dating period... and help you not only stand out as a "not average" guy, but also create the magical emotion of ATTRACTION inside women.

6) The great news is that you don't have to be ultra handsome, rich, or famous to do it.

The gist of what I'm saying is that if you know how to create this ATTRACTION inside of women, then you can overcome just about any "social stigma" that might be attached to you (yes, even 4 kids!).

Some people get upset when they read about my techniques... they don't like the idea of making fun of a woman, busting her balls, being Cocky and Funny, etc.

They just want to "be themselves" and have a woman "like them for who they are".

Most of the time, it's because they don't really GET that the woman should be having FUN when you do these things... and if you want to learn how to bust on women and be Cocky & Funny WITHOUT upsetting women.

Where was I... Oh yes...

Of course, these same guys ALMOST ALWAYS like to buy women flowers and dinner, give compliments, accept manipulative behavior... and generally do ALL KINDS OF THINGS that I consider "very manipulative" and "not-at-all-being-yourself" kinds of behavior.

Go figure.

The point is that when you made the comment about the qualities that make up "nice guy" don't really help you out when it comes to women and dating, you REALLY hit the nail on the head.

It's not that you have to be an abusive-loser-jerk, but you must realize that there are certain qualities that aren't what one might consider "nice-guyish" that PUSH THE ATTRACTION BUTTONS inside of women.

These are the things like being Cocky and Funny, teasing women, busting on them, and generally being a challenge.

If you decide that a woman you've met is "long term" relationship material, then you can start doing the things that you'd do with someone who has earned your respect and trust. It's at this point that doing "nice guy" things makes more sense.

BUT WATCH OUT! Don't unexpectedly turn in to Mr. Wussy just because a woman wants to have a relationship with you. Nothing can make a woman want to be "just friends" faster...

No matter what you do, you still must maintain a balance.

So to answer your question about how to overcome the objection to four kids...

First, realize that the women you're meeting fall into roughly a few categories:

1) Those that aren't interested at all, no matter what. Maybe they're gay, happily married, not interested... or all of the above.

2) Those that are interested in being with you for some short term fun, but aren't interested in a relationship at all.

3) Those that are interested in short term fun while they're single, but would like to pursue a relationship if they meet a good match. Here we have two sub- categories: A) Those that object to the four kids thing, and B) Those that don't.

4) Those that are only interested in a long-term relationship. We also have the sub-categories here... Those that object to the kids, and those that don't.

My first question to YOU is: "Which type of woman are YOU looking for?"

Sounds to me like you're looking for a #3, option B... a woman who's interested in some short-term fun, who would like to pursue a long- term relationship if she meets a good match... and is open to the kids. (If you're only looking for a woman who's after short term fun, then the kids don't really matter. Just don't bring them up.)

My perspective: Date some women, and BLOW THEIR MINDS with the techniques you've learned. Use the Cocky and Funny material... dial up the ATTRACTION... if you get physical with them, make it UNFORGETTABLE.

My experience is that if a person is REALLY ATTRACTED to another person, they'll put aside all obstacles in order to be with the object of their desires.

Yes, this means 4 kids and an ex.

If I were you, I'd project the attitude that you're not interested in any woman that can't adapt to the situation. Communicate that YOU'RE the one doing the selecting, and it will cancel out a woman's objections before they even arise. Think about it.

I personally know guys that have gotten past "obstacles" that almost seem IMPOSSIBLE to overcome...

Raise YOUR OWN standards, and you'll find that this has a magical effect on the way women treat you.

If you're reading this right now, and you're in a situation in life where you'd like to get back on track and start having more success with women and dating, then it's time for you to take action.

Just sitting around HOPING that something will happen or that you'll "get lucky" isn't going to do it.

If you just WAIT for something to happen, there's a VERY LIKELY chance that you'll either wind up ALONE for a VERY long time... or you'll wind up with a woman that you don't really enjoy that much.

It's up to you to actually take responsibility for this area of your life... and to go get yourself an education on how to be successful with women and dating.

The best place to do it?

Check out my best-selling, Double Your Dating ebook. It gives you the basics of attraction and dating. Are you letting time slip away? Act now, and download it here.

David Deangelo

Will You Get Better With Women?

Over this past year I've been posting about being successful with women. Guy's come seeking alot of different things: girlfriends, one-night stands, multiple partners, and spouses. To each their own, and I find it inspiring when men take the initative and take small (and major) steps to improve their lives.

The truly brilliant thing is when you start becoming better with women, you start to lead a happier more fulfilling life. You actually improve all other areas of your life.

Sounds strange, but by fixing your problems with dating, you ultimately help your relations with all people around you. Which inturn helps you have more confidence to start a new job, mend old relationships with family, or who knows what.

Isn't that what it's about?

Improving your life, and controlling your lifestyle.

Theres a slight problem though...

Sometimes the solutions are right there but we don't ACT.

I discovered something recently, that procrasintation is DIRECTLY related to DEPRESSION and INACTIVITY.

What this means is, if you're feeling down, it's because you aren't evolving and progressing into who you're suppose to be!

This is massive problem with men. I think this is the BIGGEST problem with men.

When a man acts with purpose, doors open for him.

This is true with finances, careers, family, addictions, and most importantly (for us) WOMEN.

How many times have you been invited to go out with someone, and you've said in your mind...

"It's gonna be alot of fun, but I can't be BOTHERED," then your mind starts making up excuses for you not to hangout. Like, "Nothing ever happens there anyway," or "There's no hot girls there", or my personal favorite, "All the girls are shallow and whores!"

Ha ha

The important point is that your mind makes excuses for your inactive behavior, which inturn makes you LESS motivated to make things happen.

Like I said before in other words, INACTION is the key to MISERY.

So what can you do?

Well, identify your problem.

Are you not getting dates? Are you feeling depressed? Are you not getting the type of women you want? Do you wish you could have a lifestyle more like your dreams? Do you feel your destined to be great, but suffer from lack of action?

It's time to get your life handled.

Your hear on the internet, searching for your problem: wanting to get better with women.

So what can you do?

You can take action!

You need a foundation.

I don't care how much success with women you've had. You need some basis and understanding of how women tick, what makes them tick, and how you can trigger the tick.

I've been using Double Your Dating techniques (with other things) for a while now, and I can honestly say, it's helped me gain a much stronger perspective with women and dating. It's defintely the cheapest, and most directed start to your future dating lifestyle.

Alot of people think Double Your Dating is the definitive guide to dating. Maybe, maybe not.

What I do know is that the principles in it, GOVERN all the other dating guru's advice (directly or indirectly).

If you're starting out, and haven't made this investment in your life, you need to.

It's a cheap price to gain more confidence, direction, purpose, and social skills.

You'd be suprised by the emails (and photos) that I get from guys. Before and afters.

I'm shocked, and that's why I love running this blog. It helps guys. It helps them take control.

That's why I give you advice. I've been there (with many others), and there is hope. You just need to take ACTION.

If you're not ready to purchase Double Your Dating, why not just signup for his free newsletter? (Which is filled to the brim with insider dating secrets, pickup lines, techniques, and theories)

You know how you can't tell someone unless you've been there...

Check it out here

Remember: TAKE ACTION, and DO.

Till next time,

Donovan

Top 10: Ways To Make Her Remember You

If you want to be successful with women, it’s critical that you STAND OUT from other guys... and make a woman remember you. Unfortunately, 99% of men do the exact same things when trying to meet women... so they are forgotten about almost instantly. Use these tips to separate yourself from the pack and let her know that you are her BEST possible choice.

Number 10: Start a stimulating conversation

Most guys make the classic mistake of talking about BORING and PREDICTABLE topics on dates. "What do you do?"... "Where do you live?"... "Do you have brothers and sisters?"... These are all questions that do NOTHING to separate you from all the other guys she's dated. It's far better to think of topics that would actually be FUN and INTERESTING to talk about.

Humans -- and women in particular -- love to talk about drama, comedy, adventure, and scandal. With this in mind, try teaming up with her and playing “psychology experts” with society. Guess what's going on with another couple nearby... or discuss some current celebrity gossip. Women find this stuff FASCINATING... and it will make her find YOU exciting.

Number 9: Be "Cocky & Funny"

There's a magical formula that's like CRACK for attraction, and it's called "Cocky & Funny." The secret is to have both arrogance and humor in just the right amounts and you'll drive women absolutely CRAZY for you. But you want a balance of both. Too much cocky, you'll seem arrogant and insecure. Too funny, and you'll come across as goofy. Instead, start off by coming up with an arrogant statement, and then say it in a funny way.

For example, "That girl has a big butt" becomes "J-Lo is in the house." Use this formula when you're with a particularly attractive woman, and not only will it help you laugh and relax, but you'll spark that magical feeling of attraction deep inside her.

Number 8: Work on your beliefs

Most men don't know this, but one of the best things you can do to make a woman remember you is to work on your BELIEFS. What a man believes about himself, and about women, is SO powerful that if you don't have the right beliefs, no amount of techniques, pickup lines, or "moves" is going to help make you memorable to her.

One way to rewire your brain so you believe positive things is to repeat silently to yourself: "I don't let women use their looks to get special privileges with me," or "I'm a confident guy and could care less what others think," or even "I live in my reality, and she's a guest." When you start to honestly believe powerful things about yourself and your relationship with women, your success will SKYROCKET.

Number 7: Do you want to be a lover or a provider?

Most men don’t realize that when a woman meets a man who could be a potential mate, she subconsciously categorizes him as either a “Lover” or a “Provider.” The “Lovers” are the men she is intimate with, and the “Providers” -- you guessed it -- are the men she sees as being good providers for her and her future children. We could talk about why women categorize men this way all day long, but for now let’s just talk about why a woman will put a man into one category versus another.

If you show a strong command of body language, sexual awareness and confidence, then she'll feel instant ATTRACTION and see you as a Lover. But try to win her affection with attention, compliments, dinners, gifts, and other favors, and she will see you as a Provider. When it comes to the “dating game,” Lovers are pursued and Providers do the pursuing.

If she sees you as a Provider, a woman will withhold sex, play hard to get and test you to see how good of a provider you'll be. If she sees you as a Lover, she’ll have a tendency to get physically involved with you very quickly, and YOU will be in control of where the relationship goes. Now... which guy do YOU want to be?

Number 6: Start the date at your place

The secret to getting a woman back to your place starts way BEFORE the date or meeting. On the phone you can say, "Why don't you just stop by my place, ring the bell and we can leave... I know a great coffee shop down the street." When she shows up, let her in for just a minute... then quickly leave. This sets up in her mind that you're not needy or trying to take advantage of the fact that she's in your house.

When you're out with her, make it a point to NOT get too "touchy feely" and she'll feel even more comfortable with you. When you go back to your house to drop her off, look at your watch and say "Well, I have some things I need to do... but OK, you can come in for a few minutes..." Use a tone of voice that says "You talked me into it," and she'll feel comfortable and compelled to check out your pad... and hopefully more.

Number 5: Never whine about the following things...

A sure way to KILL the attraction a woman is feeling for you is to WHINE. So never complain, whine or even mention: being single... being lonely... having bad luck with women... how long it's been since you've had a date... etc. You may think that putting yourself down or being "honest" about your situation will help her open up to you, but all it'll do is turn her OFF... and make her turn to the waiter and say, "Check please!"

Number 4: Ask direct questions by acting suspicious

Most men have a lot of anxiety about asking certain questions that are "taboo." But if you want to ask a woman her age, if she's single, or any other "not usually asked directly" type of question... just use a somewhat suspicious, direct tone. Put your eyebrows together, lean your head back slightly, and in a tone that says "I suspect something..." ask your question quickly and directly.

You can get almost any question answered if you seem like she's acting suspicious, and you're trying to get to the bottom of the issue. You'll be blown away -- women will answer any type of question -- from how old they are all the way to if they're bisexual or not -- right at the beginning of a conversation with this technique.

Number 3: Prime the pump

Some guys ask, "How am I supposed to play hard to get and act like she's picking up on me, when I don't even know if she likes me?" The answer is to "Prime the pump." Give things a little push by interpreting her comments and behaviors as signs that she is coming on to you, and then resist them.

When she does anything that could be interpreted as showing interest in you, say "You're moving kind of fast for me," or "I don't think this relationship is going to work out" in an over-the-top, teasing sort of way. Or if you want to tell her you like her, turn it around instead and say, "You like me," with a smirk on your face. Don't be afraid to provide that initial spark or spin that gets things headed in the direction YOU want.

Number 2: Hold her hand

Holding hands early on makes a woman feel safe and it warms her up to you. While you're holding hands, why not try reading her palm in a creative, funny way... as you lightly brush your finger tips across it. Or massage her hand a little while saying, "This will help you relax." After you hold her hand, give it back to her, then start up again. This way she'll feel more comfortable with your touch... she'll look forward to it later.

Number 1: End it right

Many guys do an OK job of being cool on a date, but they end up blowing it BIG TIME at the end by turning into a wussy... acting needy... or just freaking out. Don't make this mistake yourself. Always be the one to end your time together. Have something to do, somewhere to go, someone to see, etc. Say to her: "Now don't call me three times a day... I had fun too, but no stalking." Or tell her: "I'm busy tomorrow, but if you tempt me with a good enough offer, I might make time for you the next night..."

For more great tips on making a woman remember you, getting phone numbers and e-mail addresses from women quickly, for great, inexpensive or even free date ideas, and how to take things to a "physical" level smoothly and easily, be sure to sign up for my FREE Dating Secrets Newsletter - Click Here.

Meeting Women Online: "Tips and Tricks"

***QUESTION***

Dear David,

WOW. It works. I started by reading part of your book, and used some of it, and it worked great. I couldn't believe that it was your advice that helped me, I thought it was a shift in the universe or something. It was amazing. So, I went back to being a wussbag. The girl who accepted me one day rejected me the next. Bewildered, I continued to read your book, applied it once again, and I now get plenty of wonderful feedback from women of all sorts (not to mention the wonderful dates).

But, my question is this. How cocky is too cocky? I have stated the meekest positive aspect of myself and other times flouted my greatness. I do not know what the limit is, and I know it must exist. Mustn't it?

MSY, from Maryland


MY COMMENTS:


You're asking a good question here.

Remember, the formula isn't "Cocky".

The formula is "Cocky PLUS Funny".

You can say just about ANYTHING as long as what you are saying is actually FUNNY.

Remember, this technique is very powerful. It's a way of communicating with women that actually TRIGGERS and then AMPLIFIES ATTRACTION.

I've learned that "arrogance" or "cockiness" is NOT unattractive to women... as long as they're not an obvious over compensation for INSECURITY.

When you ask me what the "limit" is, what I hear you saying is, "I'm afraid to push this too far".

Don't let your own insecurities and doubts stop you from using a great technique.

Use it. But make sure you add the all powerful ingredient: HUMOR. The humor is what makes this technique magic.


***QUESTION***

Dave,

I've been enjoying your advanced series very much, and have found a lot of success over the last few months. All this success is exciting, but I'm finding that I have to rethink my usual responses to just about everything. A case in point:

Last night over the phone, the woman I've been spending the most time with lately spent a lot of effort telling me how much she loves me. In fact, I think she's really falling for me hard. The question is, though, how do I respond to a woman that gets all mushy without spending all of my attraction points? If she says something like
"I've fallen in love with you" or "I love you soooooo much", what are some examples of things to say back that will keep the attraction building?

Your devoted fan,

A in Oregon


MY COMMENTS:


Yeah, that's one of the fringe benefits of learning these concepts... women actually start to LOVE you.

You left an important part out of your question...

You didn't mention how you feel about this girl yourself, and what YOU want out of the relationship.

I'll have different answers for you based on what your intentions are.

But to give you the most direct answer to your question of how to respond to this... take a page out of the "Han Solo Manual For Responding To Women Who Say That They Love You".

Remember at the end of Empire Strikes Back when Han was about to be frozen in Carbonite, and Princess Leia said, "I Love You"?

Remember what Han said back?

He said, "I know".

Cocky, Funny, and Evasive.

Some variations:

"You should."

"I don't blame you."

"Well, I would if I were you."

...these are all fun.

One warning: If this woman is ACTUALLY falling in love with you because you've been seeing her five times a week for the last six months, then you need to remember that this is a serious thing.

If you've gone out with her 4 times over the last 3 weeks, that's different. But, if she thinks you're getting married soon, then you might want to consider what you really want out of this, and act accordingly.


***QUESTION***

I must commend you on that masterpiece you wrote,your Double Your Dating. You captured my attention and maintained it through out the entire reading! I actually downloaded it this morning 'round 8:00 or so and you kept me reading it until almost
noon! I don't think there's another person out there that has EVER kept my attention so intensely though such a restricted and normally dry medium! I found much of the thoughts you expressed to be very insightful and exceptionally well communicated. This being said, I find myself in a conundrum that seems like it would lend itself to
your expertise. A bit of pre-amble.....

I'm 22 years old and I live in Ontario, Canada but only about 10 minutes from the Michigan border. About 3 months ago I joined some sorta gay-assed meeting service online here more out of curiosity than anything else but I came across this one wonderous lady from Michigan who lives about an hour and a half away. We've emailed each other probably 60-70 times and we've talked on the phone quite a number of times as well but we've never met in person yet. Well that day is to be approaching soon and I've come across a conflict of ideas now that I've read your book. For the most part, everything I do is the opposite of what you suggest with the odd exception like my humorous nature. The problem lies in the idea of changing my character to suit what you described (in a VERY logical manner) to be the ideal actions a fellow is to take. I have an interest in her, and she (as far as I can tell) has an interest in me... but the idea of being very non-challant and sort of distant/hard to get although it appeals to me GREATLY with someone new, I'm not sure would be advisable in this situation. If you could give me some feed back I would be greatly indebted to your wisdom even more.

Thanks for your time, J


MY COMMENTS:


In your email you said, "I don't think there's another person out there that has EVER kept my attention so intensely though such a restricted and normally dry medium!"

I'll tell you what man... if you keep talking this way the "medium" isn't the only thing that's going to be dry.

Someone get this guy a copy of the "How to talk like a normal guy that most people don't think is a JACKASS" manual.

Look man. You can't go through life trying to sound like you're more intelligent than everyone else... especially when you're 22... unless you want women to respond to you the way the woman in the bar responded to Russell Crowe's advances in "A Beautiful Mind". Watch the movie if you need the specifics.

It's OK to be smart. No problem.

But when you try to TALK like you're smart, you usually end up coming off as insecure and nerdy.

Case in point: Your email.

And no, saying "gay-assed" doesn't make you cool.

Trust me.

Now, as for your girl situation...

If you've met a girl on the internet and emailed her back and forth 60 or 70 times, then you should probably do what has worked for you so far, and don't change what you're doing just because you read my book.

You're going to want to practice for a little while before you go completely changing your entire personality with a woman who thinks she's going to be marrying you soon. (Did I say that?)

You're dealing with a classic problem:

You don't know how to meet women effectively, so this one woman is VERY IMPORTANT.

If you start doing the things that I recommend with her, and it doesn't work out, you'll blame me... when it was probably your fault for acting like her girlfriend for the last 47 years by email.

Go meet more women. Practice what you've learned. And do what you've been doing with the girl you met online, because if you change into a different person right before her eyes she might think you're psycho... and get a restraining order against you. Hell, I'm trying to figure out why she doesn't have one ALREADY the way you talk...

lol.

I know, I know. I'm a funny guy.

And, another thing (or two)...

Get yourself a copy of this:

http://www.seduction-chronicles.net/mwo

David D.

Where To Take Women On Dates

From David Deangelo.

***QUESTION***

I have to admit your material is dead on the money. C & F works great, and your analysis of how the female mind works answers a lot of questions I've had.

While I am loath to admit it, I am a 22 y/o virgin. When girls find out about this they almost always ask why? Some girls have even gone as far as to change their minds about sleeping with me because I was a virgin. They claimed that they didn't want to risk giving me a bad first time, but I smell some BS there. I know girls read into everything, so what are they reading into the fact that I'm a virgin and is there any explanation I can give that won't have me looking like a loser?

Thanks D.S. Chicago

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Wow.

I really admire the fact that you're willing to reach out and ask for help.

Most guys are so caught up in themselves and their problems that they wind up suffering in silence... and, of course, are worse off because of it.

I'm going to give you an "outside the box" answer for your particular situation (even though it sounds like you've been doing quite a bit of "out of the box" thinking all by yourself... I know, I just couldn't help myself).

Here it is...

Don't talk about it.

Don't "explain" it in the first place.

Many problems in life are ILLUSIONS.

And yours is one of them.

Think of it this way...

Your dad, grandfather, great-grandfather, and so on, all the way back to the first humans figured out how to have sex for the first time.

It's not that big of a deal, man.

I recommend that you focus on learning how a woman's body works, how to get her turned on and keep her turned on, etc. rather than focusing on YOURSELF... which is what you're doing.

If you can make a woman feel incredible physical pleasure, she won't care if you're a virgin. In fact, she won't ask or even bring the topic up, because she'll be feeling so good that the thought will never cross her mind.

It is not your obligation as a person to inform the person you're about to sleep with that you've never had sex before... lol.

Great email...


***QUESTION***

I am recently divorced and am 32 years old. Haven't dated since I was 21. So I have just kind of thrown myself back out there. A friend of mine told me about you and this newsletter so I started reading it and am fascinated by your advice. I have always been the nice guy - ready with an honest compliment and holding the door etc. Its not an act - its just how I am. But I seem to be sensing a problem with this...

With my friends and gal pals I get the "you're too nice" comment all the time. I am still trying to figure out how you can be too nice. How can you be too much of a gentleman. Is this truly something that can kind of trip you up dating these days, if
you are like me. Thanks

DK - Denver, Colorado

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Ah yes, the big realization that "nice" isn't always "good".

I'm going to give you a piece of advice that could be PRICELESS to you.

Get my Advanced Dating Techniques program.

It will change your entire perspective of how the world works (at least when it comes to dating and relationships).

I guarantee beyond a shadow of a doubt that you will get TREMENDOUS benefit from it.

Why do I just recommend my program rather than giving you an explanation?

Because I can tell from your question that you need more than a short answer.

You need a new understanding of WHY "nice" doesn't attract women... and what to do instead.

I was a "nice" guy for a lot of years of my own life, and I honestly believed that I was doing the "right thing".

It only makes sense, right?

How could it POSSIBLY be true that ANYTHING other than "niceness" could lead to success with women?

Well guess what?

It IS true.

And if you don't take the time and make the investment in yourself to LEARN what you need to do, you're going to suffer a lot longer than you need to.

Trust me on this one.

If, for some reason, you can't afford my program at this point in your life, then stay tuned to these newsletters for hints. There are a lot of good ideas here.

But if you can afford it, get it.

Women don't feel those powerful, magical, GUT-LEVEL emotions for "nice" guys.

It may suck, it may not be "fair", and it may not be "right" or whatever.

Get used to it. It's reality.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Hey Dave,

I attended your seminar a few months ago and have almost all of your materials (guys you've got to get the interview series, it'll blow you away, and is VERY affordable). I am finally starting to "get it." Here's an example: I recently met a girl online (she responded to my personal ad) and we got together a few evenings ago. She stayed the whole evening and after some verbal teasing (C&F) things progressed physically. Teasing her with smooth kissing & touching then pulling away really seemed to turn her on (2 steps forward 1 step back). Later, after making out, I playfully tried to kick her out of my apartment. I said things like "isn't it past your bedtime, I need to sleep, don't you have to work tomorrow, don't your cats need food," etc. Well she didn't leave until 8 the next morning :) and even then she didn't want to leave, but had to go to work. We've exchanged several emails since, in which I've really busted her balls, she remains very interested and we're meeting again soon. I learned a few things here. Not only did proper use of the C&F and 2 steps forward, 1 step back concepts build sexual tension & anticipation, but trying to get rid of her (playfully), as counter-intuitive as it may seem, actually drew her closer. I realized that in general, being willing to walk away is so powerful because it shows you're confident and not needy, in control of yourself (and your hormones), and instantly makes you a challenge she must work for, all of which makes her want you more, not less. This worked especially well because I had set up the relationship properly first (i.e. created ATTRACTION). This definitely shows a big improvement in my "game." Keep the great materials coming!

N. from Salt Lake City (yeah you know me)

>>>MY COMMENTS:

What can I say? You're the man...

It's clear to me that you've gotten to the point where you can UNDERSTAND what is going on... and you've reached the point where you can actually control yourself (and those hormones).

Nice!

Now, QUIT EXCHANGING "A FEW EMAILS" so fast!

Give her room to miss you and think about you.

Give her at LEAST a day or two off here and there to think about you... but not hear from you.

If you do not, you'll feel the tide begin to shift, her interest begin to fade, and you'll be wondering what happened.

Now keep up the great work!


***SUCCESS STORY***

Dear David:

I have been receiving your emails for a few weeks now, and wanted to pass along a success story of my own.

I heard something on the radio few weeks ago that grabbed my attention. The caller said that he just walks up to women he sees, and asks them for their bra or panties or both. (He only tells them that he collects them.) Well, after reading your emails, I thought this was a great C&F thing to try. I went out last Saturday night, and I saw an attractive woman and told her that I was collecting women's underwear, and that I wanted hers. After the shock wore off, she got up and went into the bathroom. When she came out, she handed me her panties and said, " I swear to God, if you sniff these, I'll kick your ass." Well, I couldn't resist. I turned around and stuck out my butt. She smacked it, and then I sniffed her panties! Again, she was so shocked she just stood there looking at me with her mouth open. Well, to make a long story short, when I left a few minutes later, she was giving me her number without my even asking for it!!! I would never have thought of doing something like this before reading your emails, let alone actually doing it. You've changed my life. Thank you

B. B. Casper, WY

>>>MY COMMENTS:

I don't know what to say to this one, except for "I had to include this one".

Guys, try this one at your own risk...

But it makes for some damn good reading.

Maybe it's something in the water there in Casper, Wyoming...


***QUESTION***

Hey Dave,

Great stuff. I got your e-book a while back, and it has totally changed my attitude and approach towards women. It's helped me tremendously in meeting and talking to them. I can't wait to get your advanced series. My dilemma is is that I'm only 5-2, I weigh 120 lbs., and I'm balding, to top it off (pardon the pun). I know from experience that most females will pretty much have nothing to do with a guy as short as I am. On the rare occasion, when I can meet someone who isn't so worried about height, I have no problem being c & f and making them laugh. But even they seem to not take me so seriously. I even tried my luck online, but again, it's the rare female that responds to me. Credit to those who do, they usually are a ton of fun to talk to, and could care less how tall a guy is. Any recommendations (short of platform shoes or stilts) on different approaches I could use to change my luck with them, and make them realize that personality's more important than height?

T in FLA

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yeah, my recommendation is that you stop thinking that you have a "dilemma".

You have what you have.

Calling it a dilemma, thinking of your size as a problem, and trying to figure out "tricks" or techniques to deal with your "problems" isn't the answer.

Do this:

Boldly approach every woman you're interested in as if you're the greatest opportunity she will ever have.

Learn how to overcome your own issues with yourself.

Stop talking about "luck" as if it's the reason why you're unsuccessful with women.

Approach each new woman with an open mind, and realize that every one is different.

Most importantly...

If you are rejected, shut down, criticized, put down, laughed at, or whatever is the WORST thing you can think of, GET OVER IT.

You'll get in a car every day without thinking about it, and drive down a road at 60 miles per hour, NEARLY MISSING every single car that goes by in the other lane...literally taking your LIFE into your hands... with NO FEAR... but you're allowing your concept of how women are biased against you IMMOBILIZE you.

Stop that!

Your whole "I know from experience that woman won't have anything to do with a guy that's as short as I am" thing is BS!

I have a friend who's about 5'4" or so who is ALWAYS surrounded by hot women.

In fact, a DIFFERENT friend of mine who's also shorter dates some of the most beautiful women in the world.

Your limitation is in your mind.

Sure, women PREFER taller guys ON AVERAGE.

But your limiting belief sucks. Get rid of it.


***QUESTION***

Hey D, I'm a 20 year old guy, i work in a grocery store and am attending college. I read your newsletters but haven't gotten around to buying your book yet. Anyway, here it is, I use your C&F techniques with women that i meet, get their numbers and email, etc. but when we go out, not like a date, just to the clubs, or parties, or whatever. Most of the time even though i was the one who did everything, the girls always seemed to be more interested in my friends than in me. I don't act to needy or clingy or wuss like (i once was, but after reading some of your newsletters i realized i was being more of an ass than anything). anyway, can you help me out here?
later.

T in elba

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well what are you doing, man?

You get a woman's email and number, then call her, then get a date with her... then take her to A PARTY?

Or even WORSE, a CLUB?

Duh.

The whole idea of getting a girl's email and number is so you can spend more time ALONE with her.

If you want to hang out with women at clubs, DON'T TAKE YOUR DATE, dumbass.

Are you familiar with the concept of not taking sand to the beach?

Here's my recommendation:

When you're arranging your first date with a girl, tell her to come to your house, and that you'll go to coffee or tea with her from there.

Then, when you're finished with your beverages, tell her that you want to show her your new Spiderman comic books.

ANYTHING is better than taking a girl to a party, dude.

Stop it!

Oh, and quit being lazy, and download my eBook.

It's going to make your life a lot better, and fast. You can download it in seconds, and be reading it and tons of other good stuff:

eBook Download


***QUESTION***

David,

I've never really had any problems getting numbers from girls. I have been using your guidelines even before I knew what they were. I always keep it short and to the point. No fancy pick-up lines just say "hi" get a little personal info, crack a
joke and bam I'm off, usually with a number in hand ( or in phone ). But lately I've been testing out a new strategy that has been getting very positive results. I wanted to see what your insights were and whether you had any additional advice on the subject.

The strategy is pretty simple, I just blow girls off. I start off acting very interested, ie.. getting a number or name, and then I let that marinade with them for as long as it takes for them to break down. Usually they keep pestering me to call them, hang out, whatever. I just keep acting like ( not telling them outright ) I will call or that we will go hang out "sometime". Being a college student, eventually I see these girls out on the weekend at a club, bar, party or any social gathering, and they are so excited that I'm finally in a place to hang out with them hooking up is almost too easy. Anyway. what do you think? Good? Bad? And what are the possible negative aspects of this strategy.

J.C.

Knoxville, TN

>>>MY COMMENTS:

The only possible "negative" aspects of this strategy are:

1) You might have to get a new phone number because you'll have so many women calling you.

2) You may need to move as well to avoid the stalkers.

You're on the right track BIG TIME here.

This is gold, pure and simple.

Now you're talking.


***QUESTION***

Dave - I recently met this lady and after a little chit chat she gave me her email. I sent her an email a couple days later which basically said that i would like to get to know her. She did not respond to the email, but two days later I saw her and she came to me and said thank you for the note. My question is whether or not she is worth pursuing?

L

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Not. Oh, and stop sending emails to women that say "I'd like to get to know you".

Be interesting.

Be fun.

Say crazy stuff.

Play.

Bust her chops.

ENERGY!

Have you been reading my newsletters?

Boring is BAD.

You sound boring to me.

Bad.


***SUCCESS STORY**

David,

I've been getting your newsletters for a few weeks now and I realized something. When I was younger I was very successful with women because I didn't care about a relationship. I'm 30 years old now and somewhere along the line I started behaving differently because I was looking for someone to settle down with. That is when I started having problems meeting women. By reading your newsletter, I made the connection as to why I was successful in the past. It had nothing to do with how I looked, but my attitude.

Last week I decided to put your methods to the test. There's this girl that had been flirting with me at a weekly gathering some of my friends attend. At the end of the night I made my move and she shot me down cold. When I asked what all the flirting had been about she said that it was all in good fun. The next week I started the cocky & funny routine. She pulled me outside, threw her arms around me and said, "Kiss me!" I blew her off and made some smart ass comment. She just stood there staring at me like she couldn't believe what had just happened. I just stared back and refused to break eye contact. Eventually, she looked away, slapped me on the arm and said, "You're bad!" Later on we made out on the balcony and then she asked what I thought.In a sarcastic tone, I said, "It was alright." She playfully punched me in the arm and I went inside and acted like nothing had happened between us. It was great to turn the tables on her. If I've started having success just by reading your newsletter, I can't wait to order your materials.

S, Oklahoma

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Gold star for you.

You get it. Your letter should be read by every living single man, period.

Thank you, and good night.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave,
I just got your Advanced Series in the email last week and I've been studying left and right for the past 7 days. It is thoroughly phenomenal!!! In my life, I've never heard such powerful techniques for attaining lifestyle success - this is a godsend to me! Thank You so much!!

Now, to the success...I went on a road trip yesterday to Indianapolis to visit a friend and stopped off at the shopping mall to pick up a few shirts. There was a smokin' black girl working in the store and I reallllly wanted to approach her so I say, "Excuse me, Fashion Goddess..." and hold up two shirts to compare, "...if you saw me at a party wearing one of these shirts, which one would you find me most attractive in?" "The green one", she replies. I say to her, "Well, I'll make sure not to get that one, then...see, I've been trying to avoid unstable women lately." Dave, this woman's jaw just drops to the floor - I broke right through her brat barrier in no time flat. So, we flirt for 10 minutes or so...and I TELL her - not asking her - to take her lunch break with me, because I'm hungry and I need someone to buy me lunch. Well, of course, she did and she bought me lunch after 10 minutes of flirting and ball busting. And, as a side note, she was 27 and seemed to be very experienced with guys and I JUST TURNED 21 this week - she knew this first hand and didn't even care...I made her feel attraction off the bat and, as you say, "No amount of logic (or age differences) could convince her otherwise". PHENOMENAL!!!!! I'll definitely get together with this bombshell next time I'm in town.

Thanks Dave, this stuff is absolutely changing my life!!! I can't wait for some of the new products!!!

Ciao! DF Bloomington, IN

>>>MY COMMENTS:

Ah, another man that gets it.

You've pointed out a personal favorite little humor trick of mine...

Leading a girl to think that you're saying onething, then turning it completely around.

Another example:

You sit down to eat at a restaurant, and start talking to the cute waitress.

You start flirting with her. She flirts back a little bit.

Next, you ask her what she thinks the best thing is on the menu.

After she answers, you either say:

"Well, if your taste in food is even half as good as your taste in men, then it must be damn good."

or...

"Well, I just wanted to know what to avoid...so I'll make sure to NOT order that."

Good stuff.

Killer flirting material.

Thanks for your email... keep it up.

Women That Flake Out

This is what my mate Zack wanted to share about Tyler Durden's "When To Call... What To Say If She Flakes... How To Finally Handle It!" I thought his points and perspective were helpful:

We both know that the subject of calling and flakiness is one of the biggest obstacles men face when they're in the process of increasing their success with women, so feel free to post this. I hope my thoughts will be of some help to our fellow guys. First, however, let me tell you a bit about myself and how far along I am in improving my dating life. I believe it is important to know where a person is coming from before listening to what they think:

My name is Zack. I'm 23 years old. I'm 5 ' 7, skinny, and a decent-looking guy. Like many others, my life was an endless cycle of frustration, failure, and low self-esteem until recently. David DeAngelo's "Double Your Dating" is what helped me change that. I've only been practicing his teachings for 8 months and I haven't yet checked out material from the other big names in the "seduction community", but the improvement has been HUGE. I see women all the time and I can get phone numbers easily. I'm still growing and evolving, so my view on the calling-flaking topic may change in the future (I don't think that even the best eventually master this stuff, you can always get better and life is a continuous learning process); nonetheless, I feel experienced enough to comment.

BEING PERSISTENT FOR THE WRONG REASON

Many guys fall into the trap of repeated effort with a woman due to a mindset that says "Oh, but this one is interesting" when in reality, the real reason they keep attempting to build a presence in her life or set up a date is BECAUSE she's being distant and evasive. When a woman makes it difficult for me to get in touch or meet with her, I only continue trying if I'm actually interested enough in hanging out with her. I've got more women than I know what to do with and I meet more constantly (not to mention that I also have a life).

Out of the dozens of girls who give me their contact info every week, a few make stronger impressions than the rest. I just don't have time to keep calling every single lady who acts unresponsive, especially if she is not one of the women who triggered a higher level of interest from me when we met. I do what Tyler recommends if my higher level of interest in the woman is genuine, not a result of her being elusive.

A good rule to have when dealing with flaky or hard to get-women is this: Don't apply the "NEXT!" attitude indiscriminately to all the women you meet. If she made enough of an impression on you during that first encounter, don't be a dumbass and dismiss her...get the ball rolling! But if she's one of the girls whom you couldn't even remember, move on! A limitless number of other women are waiting in the wings.

SITUATIONS ARE DIFFERENT

In my experience, I have found that most attractive women don't have regular access to alpha-men who are sexually skilled and understand attraction. Many aren't lucky enough to even run across one. I know so many attractive women who, prior to my having met them, hadn't had sex in over 3 months. The majority of attractive women are bored with men or are "sexually dormant", as DeAngelo would say. Sure, they might be sleeping with their ex-boyfriend, some bad boy, or "a player on the side", and these guys may have "game" or be more physically attractive than you...but men who have it all together, are going somewhere in life, know attraction INSIDE-OUT, and can give women UNBELIEVABLE experiences in the bedroom are RARE.

Attractive women do typically have options, but those "options" are usually average chumps or players with limited skill. Since this is the situation I most often face, not calling too much, not calling too soon, and not spending too much time on the phone works extremely well. Now there are times when I meet a woman who does have many options that include men like me. I don't meet this kind of woman often, and I don't always experience a higher level of interest in her when I do. But assuming I AM specifically interested in meeting with her, I do the things that Tyler advises if she starts flaking or not calling me...and it works.

To surmise: Projecting "scarcity and value" will work on MOST attractive women you'll meet. But if you're interested in meeting with one who has many equally smooth or smoother guys available to her, you have to handle the situation differently. Call as many times as you need to and spend as much time talking to her as you feel comfortable with; just be playful, calm, and indifferent about it, i.e. don't be a wussbag.

AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WAY TO HANDLE THIS

I have some news for you: Everything I have said so far is how I USED to view the whole problem of flakiness, unreturned calls, and "women with options."

While dismissing women based on interest-level and judging different situations are still good ideas for newbies, there is a MUCH SIMPLER philosophy you can embrace. In fact, it's so simple that when it first occurred to me a few months ago I slapped myself in the head and thought "I'm so STUPID, why didn't I look at it that way before!"

Here it is in a nutshell:

Stop caring whether or not a woman has options and just focus on BEING THE BEST OPTION. Wow, I know...DUH.

Try to follow me here. Tyler is correct when he says that if a woman with options (good options) doesn't call you or flakes on you, it doesn't mean she isn't attracted you; she just has A LOT of quality men on her plate and you're simply "one of the many." But what you also have to realize is that out of the many skilled and attractive men she has on speed dial, she probably sees one or two of them more often than the rest. Obviously, she likes these guys THE MOST. All the others serve as backup choices when one of the "top two" isn't available.

When you think about that, it becomes clear that attraction is "quantifiable."

Most hot women don't feel attraction AT ALL for almost all the guys in their lives and do feel it for a few of them. Other hot women feel attraction for MOST of the men they know but feel EVEN GREATER ATTRACTION for a small number of those men. Once you understand this, your frame of mind should be simple: Work endlessly on being as attractive as you possibly can; believe that YOU are the best option the women you meet can have.

When you completely dedicate yourself to being a man that no sane woman would "shuffle down the list", guess what...she will ALMOST ALWAYS see you as a guy who deserves priority. If you develop your body language, eye contact, physical presence, voice tone, and social skills to a level that is RIDICULOUS (that's what you've gotta shoot for), all the options a woman might have won't make a difference. Your impression will stand out in her mind.

This idea skyrocketed my success with women. Now I don't "decide" if I want to continue trying to connect with a woman or forget her, I do whatever I want. I know I am the best option and therefore, I can call or not call, keep conversations brief or longer, call often or sparingly, and it doesn't matter! She still feels MORE ATTRACTED to me than to any of her other guys, regardless if they're skilled players or regular chumps.

I very rarely find myself in a situation where the woman I'm interested in hanging out with has one or more guys who are really good options. Those times that I do, I simply know that whoever I'm "competing against" is better at attraction than I am...and then I find these dudes and learn from them!

So there you have it. When a woman with options makes it tough for you, it's not because "she has options"; it's because she has GOOD options who might be better selections over you. Be the best option! When you do this, you'll notice that 99 percent of the time...you'll be the one who gets her.

- Zack

Is Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo Worth Buying?

I've been in the community for a little while now. About two years ago I started with an e-book called Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo, a lot of you have heard of this. When I first opened the e-book I was amazed, I felt that my eyes have seen the light, and I began to understand a new found world of seduction and the "secrets of women".

That's until I found more material.

Then it became a virus of information seeking, always looking for the new "hidden tactics". I started reading all of these e-books, and got even more confused. Until I learn't the proper way to do things...

Now, I had success that I never thought possible. Before reading David DeAngelo's Double Your Dating, I hadn't even kissed a girl. Then a month after reading, I had a two week long relationship with a hot woman. It was working to some degree. I moved onto more advanced material. It is foolishness to skip ahead to advanced material before you have a foundation of what's going on between men and women.

This brings me to discussing the topic that David DeAngelo's material is irrelevant or a waste of time.

I believe that notion is wrong for a number of reasons.

The first reason is that he provides a framework for understanding human relations that you really can't find elsewhere. He has a lot of theory in Double Your Dating that helps build a foundation for what you will find the REAL WORLD. The second reason is it gives you a insight into what you need to do to become a MAN. Typically men are ass-kissing losers, that supplicate themselves tremedously around women. This is unattractive and "I'll be the king of all masturbaters the rest of my life" approach. Don't be a WUSSY (according to David DeAngelo).

Now, the problem I see with most guys that download the Double Your Dating e-book is that they go to the opposite side of the spectrum and start being verbally unattractive to women. Throwing out cocky and funny like its just in fashion, and making themselves seem super insecure to these women. This is not what the e-book teaches. He gives a road-map to being an alpha-male, not a cocky and funny machine gun.

David DeAngelo writes about alpha body language, and how to hold yourself in a variety of situations. Leaning back and slower eye movement are among some of the advice Deangelo brings to the table. He does offer suggestions of things to say, how to ask a woman out, basic interactions to generate serious attraction, and characteristics of a engaging conversation.

If you're looking for a step-by-step guide, then Double Your Dating is not for you. However, if you are NEW to the community, I would definitely read the e-book Double Your Dating first, then move on to more routine based procedures, or natural conversation based skills. This does two things.

One, Double Your Dating helps you conquer your inner issues. It will give you a road-map to all the beta behavior you could be portraying, once you know what they are you can start eliminating them.

Second, Double Your Dating helps you the basic understanding of what attraction is, how it is developed, and how you can implement certain ideas into your thinking. For example, I had know idea why women LOVED bad boys. I had NO CLUE. It baffled me. When I was a jerk to women, they were simply repulsed. I never had the chicks flocking to me. David DeAngelo explained that.

Ok, I've ranted enough.

Do yourself a favour and if you haven't already, and pay the meager $20 and download his e-book with the bundle of freebies that come with it. Do something to get your life in order, because when all is said and done, ACTION is what will make you a success with women.

P.S. Just remember to ONLY sprinkle cocky and funny into your reactions for added potency. Spices lose their bite when you use them constantly, and it shows your a bad cook. (Beautiful metaphor huh?)